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Postby Bassline on Wed May 18, 2005 5:02 pm

jakobx wrote:how come i always hear about tjose sites AFTER they are closed...Same with scifi classics.


this one's pretty good and open :mrgreen:
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Postby Mantronix on Sun Jun 12, 2005 12:44 pm

I just regged here, looks alive to me. Plus it has a smiley with shooting guns. But I'll save that one for some serious flaming, should the opportunity arise.
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Postby maxpayne2409 on Sun Jun 12, 2005 1:12 pm

the main topic is bullshit man, its coz it was summer and everyone was away on holidays or whatever so it appeared somewhat dead, infact i swear only us brits were still here due to our lack of anything to reliably call summer
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Postby Blade Runner on Sun Jun 12, 2005 2:14 pm

All the Sci-fi boards are crawling along at the moment whether its mule related or Sci-fi boards in general. I'm using the time to get my site running the way i want it before Firefly, the Stargates and BSG start again on July 15th. then it will be mad all over again :wacky:
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Postby maxpayne2409 on Sun Jun 12, 2005 3:58 pm

scifi never gets old. just a little, *cough cough* Dusty
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Postby KOSH on Tue Jun 28, 2005 6:40 pm

tomorrow's questions......yesterday's awnsers

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Postby Jynks on Sun Jul 17, 2005 11:06 am

before Firefly, the Stargates and BSG start again on July 15th. then it will be mad all over again


WHAT? Firefly is coming bavck for a season 2?? I know the film is coming out.. but a 2nd season?? <cross fingers>
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Postby dinky on Sun Jul 17, 2005 4:33 pm

think he was talking about the movie.
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sci-fi donkey=dead p2p site!

Postby d0c on Fri Apr 28, 2006 6:36 pm

after quiting posting here like i did in deaddonkey aka horror has no home, this site have lost its up to date quality. its sad to say it but this site is missing alot of sci-fi releases, and people here dont bother to post the new movies at all...

other sites have taken over where people are more active than here...does sites are not only sci-fi but are better than this one. this site have just gone from informative new emule link site to informative museum emule link site, thats what happen when people lose intrest... i feel sorry for spud since he is the owner and have tryed hard to get this site going... good luck to you and your sites...

bye its time to move to other more active sites...
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Postby spudthedestroyer on Sat Apr 29, 2006 2:39 am

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Postby dinky on Sat Apr 29, 2006 2:38 pm

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Postby maxpayne2409 on Sat Apr 29, 2006 2:55 pm

yes i was just thinking too how this forum is kept alive by one man

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Re: sci-fi donkey=dead p2p site!

Postby PC_Arcade on Thu May 04, 2006 9:22 am

d0c wrote:after quiting posting here like i did in deaddonkey aka horror has no home, this site have lost its up to date quality. its sad to say it but this site is missing alot of sci-fi releases, and people here dont bother to post the new movies at all...

bye its time to move to other more active sites...


If this site is anything like HHAH, it will go from strength to strength now d0c has left :beerchug:
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Postby Jynks on Thu May 04, 2006 9:03 pm

The board isslowing down, I think mainly that it is a link collection place, there are not many people activly releasing stuff on this site, just moving links around. Even though I think it has some very very cool links.

I do not think the site is going to go away. It very well may have little groth spurts now and then and the links already here are cool as.

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Postby spudthedestroyer on Fri May 05, 2006 6:21 am

hehe, I don't think it picked up to any great extent to begin with, there's click through traffic, and despite a growing user base I suspect it will stay small. I mean HHAH is "small" (compared to a catch all indexer, and its going to be), but if you want horror movies people have made it into pretty much the place to get stuff. My collection has grown so much because of the users, and its not just the same stuff, there's a lot of rare movies you can get, here too, there's a great effort by many of the users to dig up these awesome foreign and old movies that get totally swamped, or just don't get posted at the big sites. That's partly why HHAH was originally made, to a) increase the strength of the shares behind movies b) to increase the exposure of horror movies c) to help increase the quality of the released movies and d) to build a community around which these are the principles. It surpasses these

I'm not sure if big necessarily means better, I’ve been mod/admins of many ed2k sites and i know the bigger the site gets the more trouble you get and the risk of disinterest and lack of direction. Data sparseness some might say.

I never had expectations of, nor did I want, Sharereactor with any single part of HHAH, not even a shareconnector, or a filenexus. You might have noticed a trait with those one :lol: Well its dead-donkey was around before shareconnector afaik, setup in late 2002, and populated with most content in 2003. its existed far, far, far longer than i expected, and covered so much more. Its lasted as i'd hoped, and i don't see it going away soon.

Database is relatively intact, the only time it was lost was when it wasn't possible to bring across the site from lycos to a paid host when it destroyed the database. So as far as ed2k sites go, its pretty old and has coverage.

The idea wasn't to become huge and implode, nor to force gimmicky spam, i'd like to think HHAH is tightly managed and structured to be as simple to get into as possible. The site is completely open, there's always reactionary calls for a lockdown, restrict membership, but everything is open to those that don't want to register. I suspect if registration was closed across the site then that would force signups, but that's not really helpful, bulking up a user base of people that are encouraged to post spam. There's not really been a problem with that many a user, there have been some people that weren't helpful and though we were lax a couple of them had to be dealt with. I'm not really sure i'd classify a couple of them as even horror fans; it was more make the site bigger and add more rips (even if they aren't horror). There are plenty of sites with that aim, why bother doing it again?

I think that the acitve release thing is a point. I've noticed whilst there's butt loads of extrmely rare horror, and loads of awesome rippers and rips that people have come together to collect, often porting across the releases from big site doesn't seem to happen. I guess that's helpful, if a rip is seen elsewhere its brought over. I dunno why people don't do that at hhah. What i can say is that the resharing possibilities at hhah are very high which in itself indicates how strong a community the users have built

I think the point is, comparing a single selective topic site to a massive all encompassing site doesn't show much, and i've never been a fan of convergance ie. never liked SR style add a section and tack on another community, I think its good to port releases across seperate sites but keep focus on a specific topic. I've seen a number of sites branch out further and further, but then the knock on effect is that not everyones at the site for the same reason and you've just got lots of users but not really the tightness. I guess i could use fh as an example, not that its not huge or very popular, but i always get the feeling that the older members are getting a tad dissolusioned a tad. I'm pretty sure the mission statement has been ammended, so to speak. I think specialisation on movies would be great for the site. just like branching out here will probably increase the userbase but will lessen the whole site. That's why scifi and forum are different forums, making a new forum/category within hhah was simply not an option, and I think I can say this for certain, horror fans are not scifi fans. You get people who are both, I am, but I know some people just don't care for scifi overly. Sharing the database of users was the original inention, and whilst the usebase would grow, i don't think the community quality would.

There's a general slow down of all the ed2k sites, and I've been around a long time and this is definitely cylical. I guess that's why i merged with these two threads, and posted a link to that old topic on hhah, all by d0c posting about the dead site :) Traffic is still high, bandwidth consumption slowly edges its way up every month. The technologies have a lot to do with sites of this nature, as does the forced registration and signup, and the spareness and coverage of the site.

Maybe i was completely wrong in hhah's inception as a genre site with no consideration of broadening/tacking on other deviations in the horror site ? Dispite the sub domain status, scifi this is, its essentially completely different and is hosted here because of server convience. Dead-donkey's not going to change even if people think it was the wrong approach in creating the site. I still think its the best options for sites to find a subject and stick with it rather than to go for just overall general coverage.


Of course if you think you can bring more scifi fans on board, then by all means advertise in your signatures or rant and rave, or leave as d0c has chosen to do (again).
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Postby TeKHeD on Fri May 19, 2006 8:12 pm

How about expanding the site to cover fantasy movies and related?
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Postby maxpayne2409 on Fri May 19, 2006 8:21 pm

scifi and fantasy are too closely related to need expanding, they are the same thing mostly
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Postby spudthedestroyer on Sat May 20, 2006 1:01 pm

maxpayne2409 wrote:scifi and fantasy are too closely related to need expanding, they are the same thing mostly


indeed as far as i'm concerned, this subsite is for:
  • Science Fiction (all inclusive)
  • Science Fact (documentaries) - particularly cutting edge stuff
  • Comic Book scifi/fantasy
  • Fantasy


Its all pretty much the same stuff :)
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Postby dinky on Sat May 20, 2006 3:53 pm

meah...generally. but the site is so clearly geared to spacey/futuristic sci-fi (i.e., all of the available themes), that it more or less implies the distinction between sci-fi and fantasty. so I can understand the inclination to make it more "fantasy" or less "science-y". of course, I imagine there are more sci-fi geeks into movies and the fantasy guys read more (tons of overlap, of course...cuz they're basically the same mold in my experience).
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